Cinema, Television and Media World
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Cinema, Television and Media World
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I've known about Cowboy Bebop from him too. Haven't watched it, but I heard it's very wonderful.
Wow, cool. He also liked Evanjelion, Cowboy Bebop but mostly Ghost in the Shell.
Did you guys know his daughter's name is Zelda--named after the character in the game? Such an awesome parenting skill! :)
I find him to have perpetual sad-looking expressions too, it's as if his laughter was so over-the-top it's as if to break into tears, so I rarely watch him in his comedic roles, but I love his drama roles, e.g. Dead Poets Society, Good Morning Vietnam, Good Will Hunting, August Rush, etc.
No, not really, although ''always'' could be an exaggeration.He had this sad, melancholic look to him even he was playing silly and energetic, so his suicide didn't surprised me as much as other people.
"Always"? Hidsight bias much? :-) check this out: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says
His suicide didn't surprised me, because I could always read melancholy and sadness on his face despite playing comedic role.
Oh captain my captain. RIP.
JFK though? Referring to "high Fi" when he described as introversion? Um, no.
I know he was extremely shy in his youth, spent a lot of time in his own imagined world he said. INFP is not out of the question, even though he looks like a prototypical ENFP on stage and screen. But then an INFP would tend to look like an ENFP when extroverting, wouldn't they?
Thanks for the compliment, Urrayo. Good point on Ne and zaniness, too. Williams definitely wasn't an average Ne dom; he essentially took the zany aspect of Ne and used it to its maximum potential.
Damn, Ventus. I agree with you wholeheartedly, but even if I didn't, I'd still wish more people into this stuff were as reasonable and well-reasoned as you. On a side note, I think the basic idea of zaniness is indeed more classically Ne, but I think he took that way beyond what is typical even for the average Ne-dom. I honestly think it's an aspect of Ne that's accurate, yet generally a bit over-emphasized. Just my two cents.
Interesting post, Ollyx2oxenfree. A few points: (1) Socionics, despite being based in Jungian functions, doesn't have great correlation to MBTI. For example Fyodor Dostoevsky is the type alias for INFj (MBTI INFP) in Socionics, which means dominant Fi. And yet in MBTI he's a clear INFJ. So the correlation isn't especially strong. (2) The "I'm open but not THAT open" you say aux Fi types usually have could also explain the "masking and constantly acting" you describe as Fe. (3) I don't think his zany personality necessarily precludes Ni but is much more easily explainable with Ne. You didn't really give any reasons why his zaniness is more explainable with Ni than Ne. If he's a Fe type, why not a NTP or SFJ? (4) Yes, many actors are INFJs, but probably equally many actors are ENFPs. (5) I don't think attributing his zaniness to Ne is insulting to ENxPs. In fact you could argue one of the reasons he was a great actor/comedian was because he was zany. I mean that as a compliment. (6) In favor of Ne: Look at his comedic style. It's mostly improv and prominently exhibits clever dot-connecting between already-existing ideas and objects. One of the reasons it's so effective is that it's got such a springy fluidity to it. If he were a Ni type and therefore focused, symbolic, and inwardly imaginative why would his comedic style be like this? (7) I still am not sold on Jungian introversion as most of his salient traits seem to be Ne-Fi rather than Fi-Ne. I think he said one of the reasons he liked standup comedy was because it made it so it was just him and the audience (no subjective buffer placed between himself and others and therefore a sign of extroversion). In many cases celebrities who identify themselves as introverts have high Fi and are actually, in Jungian terms, referring to that (ex. JFK, Shailiene Woodley, etc.). I'm still open to invoking the "own best fit" rule, though, if you can prove he knew what the Jungian definition of introversion was (in that case I'd still change my vote to INFP).
Yes, @Jlee, I agree. I typically don't type people as introvert/extrovert from sociability especially famous people but just wanted to reopen this. In Socionics, it's a consensus that he is ESFj actually, lol, so it's interesting how some can't see Fe in him in MBTI but others see it as his dominant in Socionics (I actually think him being Fe something makes sense but not ESFJ lol). Thanks for your response Ventus. I don't usually read quotes from famous people to type them though and I don't get as strong a sincere vibe from him at all actually (not that he's insincere), more like masking and constant acting even when not acting. And auxiliary Fi is kinda easy for me to pick up on, there is an openness due to the Exxp but then a personal boundary of Fi, sort of invites you to be yourself but also kinda says "i'm open but not THAT open." May be hard to explain lol but it seems some mistake this for auxiliary Fe sometimes though, depending on the reserve, thinking the openness is Fe and the reserve is introversion. In the interviews though, I see him playing off of others' emotions and trying to direct the emotional atmosphere constantly so, of those two typings from different theories, Fe seems better but it seems as if it's used more 'creatively' as they call the auxiliary function in Socionics, rather than as rigid and seriously as ENFJ thus why I chose INFJ for him which can somewhat be backed up by his self-proclaimed introversion. Many actors (especially method actors) are INFJs anyways, even when they don't really act. Slipping in and out of characters, being able to show whatever aspects of themselves they want to show and as rapidly as he does shows he knows how to change how he conducts or expresses himself, largely influenced by the things he absorbs for his comedy through intuition. To me, while ENXP is understandable on the surface, it seems kinda taken at face value due to his manic behavior/persona on stage which is kinda insulting to ENXPs to me.
I think it's interesting that Robin Williams would call himself an introvert, but several ENxPs identify that way. In Jungian terms, introversion is not predicated on the idea of social extroversion, however; rather, less sociable Ne doms are extroverted. I stay with ENFP for him.
That's interesting. If he were indeed introverted I'd call him INFP; I see lots of Pe (in fact that seems to be his primary trait...he loves improv and in general seems fluidly curious and etc, and unlike most Se doms is intellectual, hence the ENFP votes.) I'm surprised you didn't see much Fi. If you read through his quotes it shines through in most of them (not as much as Ne, but a lot nonetheless). He's kind and personable but in a sincere, inward-based kind of way. Couldn't find Fe evidence at all. There's a case to be made for the "own best fit" rule here but I don't think he knew what Jungian introversion is, so until someone proves otherwise I'm keeping my ENFP vote. I wonder why someone voted INFJ, given it shares no cognitive functions with ENFP....
RIP, I don't really see much Fi at all from him and people probably think ENFP fits because of his zany persona. In his interview 'inside the actors', he describes himself as introverted, actually. Calling himself introverted, quiet and absorbent. Says his absorbent nature allows him to absorb things around him for his comedy. That said, doesn't really prove he's truly introverted but him being zany on stage doesn't make him extroverted either. What type would you guys give him, if he was indeed introverted though?